One Third of a Dog
I realized I didn't get a chance to announce here that Grace is part of the family! Well a third of her is at least!
I realized I didn't get a chance to announce here that Grace is part of the family! Well a third of her is at least!
Whew, it's been a busy last 2 months!
Here is where Zumi has been at with her obedience training. Since the January AKC obedience trial where she moved on her stands or didn't stand on the fist cue, I've been trying to replicate that issue in practice. My guess is it is a pressure issue with the judge.
In practice, I was occasionally successful early on with having someone exciting standing behind her, but overall she nailed it.
So I then moved to upping the excitement level and playing with rewards in front of her. This did successfully replicate the problem of not standing on the first cue!
In addition to working on the stand, I continue to work on her db arousal issues.
Here's a compilation of a recent session with the stand and db:
This last weekend we had a CDSP trial and I'm happy to report that she didn't move at all on any of the 6 retrieves over 3 trials. Good girl!! Still some squealing on each ROH, but not always on the flat. She did do some mouthing of her db on the front, worse the first run of each day vs the 2nd run on Saturday.
Zumi did NQ in her run on Sunday due to moving on the DOR recall. This was the first time she's done that to me in a sit, not a stand:
And here is Saturday's run where we did qualify!:
This weekend we have another AKC trial, the first since the January trial and it's at the same location. This time I have 2 runs on Saturday. Wish us luck!
2018 was a busy year! The baby became a toddler. Adam started a new job in the spring. And we moved, not once but twice!
The yearly video!
Zumi
Zumi had a big year. We traveled in agility for our first overnight trip to the midwest UKI cup in Wisconsin, and then our bigger trip just last month to Florida. She didn't do that great on paper, but I thought she handled the exciting environments really well! We still have a long way to go in agility for my handling to keep up with her and for continually fixing her startine!
I decided to seize today's nice weather and Daddy napping with the toddler to actually train my dog! Win for me!
I decided to look at the TEAM 4 test behaviors to train some new things and yet still have a ton of carryover for our AKC Open prep work.
We haven't officially put anything together yet for this test but I was confident that she had the foundations necessary for it. Indeed looking over the test items today it was more so the putting together of the various chains that were new for us, not the skills themselves.
So I decided to take a baseline. Run through the test and see where she was at:
1. Send to target with distractions, position changes, recall.
Send to target between distractions went well! I know Zumi can struggle with this and we've done quite a bit of work on it in the past. 3 position changes on a single cue, check. We've been working those cue discriminations for open and it paid off here. I just have to remember to pause longer!
Recall on a hand signal only- oops. Zumi "knows" this but apparently not well enough to do it out of context. Recall signal after a go out and with her toys out just wasn't there.
2. Big figure 8 around distractions.
This one surprised me! Zumi left the distractions alone fairly nicely. Well I guess she did almost try to steal one after the exercise finished from the previous exercise! But the big problem here was stopping as we heeled!
In her defense, we have been practicing our moving sits, moving stands, and moving downs recently!
3. Retrieve and pivoting away.
This one is just so hard for Zumi! She squealed, but did ultimately turn with me both times.
And then spat out the dumbbell, likely due to all the snow in her mouth!
4. Moving stand, drop, return to heel.
Good girl on the actual exercise. But a lot of auto marking ahead before we started! We'll have to work on doing heeling starting out towars the go out area!
Here we took quite a big break. I'm not sure what grabbed Zumi's attention but she clearly wasn't ready to work. I thought it might have been the 2nd retrieve item the way she was searching but I'm just not sure! Either way, I tried to be patient as I told her to take a break, and then yet another break when she wasn't really ready again.
5. Backup-position change- broad jump
This was the exercise I was the least certain about. I'm sure I've backed her up in front of a jump but not enough to have her think! I was actually surprised that she did catch my cue eventually and back up vs just jumping!
Didn't sit on the first cue though!
6. Articles.
Good girl! I've actually practiced articles a small handful of times the last few months which is much more than usual for me! She had no problem in the snow.
I was pretty pleased! Big takeaways to work on are:
- recall signal with distractions out and after a send away.
- pivoting away from a thrown item with more confidence, less conflict.
- actually heeling, not stopping!
- backup cue when in front of a jump.
- heeling starting from the go out spot.
Zumi earned her TEAM 3H title! It's been difficult to make time to practice any element, let alone the whole thing so Netta accompanied us.
Level 3 is so much fun! It's really where all of the foundation behaviors start to come together and you actually look like you're doing real obedience!
In the "H" level, Zumi is limited with rewards (just the distraction reward by the retrieve and then the very end) and it's supposed to be at a place you haven't submitted before. Well outside our house is both new in that we just moved(!) and new in that I haven't had to do an outside one yet. As we go into the 4-6honors level we will have to visit new parks or training centers to film!
TEAM 4 will actually be great prep for AKC open! It will have work on focusing and being calm after a dumbbell throw (as you have to pivot away from it, throw a 2nd one, then pivot back!). And has quite a bit of position change work that should help the new cue discrimination exercise in open, as well as figure 8 work aroudn distractions, and a broad jump.
The biggest thing we will be focusing on this next month, besides TEAM4, will be Zumi's drop on recall. Apparently we are goign through a bit of anticipation issues right now with Zumi dropping or just stopping on the recall, before I cue the drop. A very normal phase! Just one I wasn't expecting as I thought I worked through that last year! Apparently when you don't really practice it much at all and the dog isn't 100% solid on it then problems come back ;)
I have decided that I'm going to enter Zumi (well if we can fix the DOR!) in our club's AKC trial the end of October. Her arousal with the retrieve is pretty darn good in practice now. Not 100% but close to it with not vocalizing or pattering her feet. And I'm honestly not sure I will ever be able to fix it for a trial environment. We will keep working on it and keep shooting for reaching a 95%+ in practice. And then I'm ok with the "it is what it is" mindset for trials. At least that's where I'm at right now.
I think we're really making progress now with Zumi's retrieve arousal levels!
I just started using a front foot target to have her wait on and that really seems to be gettign that weight shift back to prevent the foot dancing. I've used a platform before without success, but I don't know why I didn't think of the perch!
Look at how far I can throw it now!
Her stand is coming along too. Mainly we're working on anticipation issues now.
I'm still using a bar in front of her and know I will need to for quite awhile. Stupid retraining of styles!
I have been trying to motivate myself lately to attend some obedience run throughs/open ring time with Zumi. She needs the practice in not only training with a slightly more formal atmosphere, but feeling some of the stress in the air that usually accompanies such events.
One of the club holds the run throughs every Friday, I just haven't been motivated to drive the 40 minutes in rush hour so sadly Zumi has never been. Until last week that is! Yay for me!
I did 2 runs, one in the open ring and one in the utility ring. And then yesterday I had the opportunity to do another run through at a closer location! It was much quieter though, so while it was still great practice it didn't have that stressful atmosphere.
Run Through Set #1
Last week's run through started out with more ring confidence and play work before diving into some little bit of training. Since Zumi was focused and happy I decided to move on to see how her dumbbell work would be in the environment. I tried to be good and just do 5 foot throws. And I'm very happy to report no vocalizing!!! And giving me great eye contact too! On the downside, she was really vulturing again and moving her front feet forward.
In the utility ring I decided to do more of a modified run through. This turned out to be a mistake for her. It wasn't bad by any means, but even with the modifications, she made more mistakes than I would like in that environment.
Good:
Signals were good! But I reset a turn. Not sure if it was the pressure of a judge following or if it was due to my footwork as I told the judge I wanted just a short down and back heeling pattern and she added in a turn.
Articles were great! I used 5 of her lids and she nailed the nose touch alert even with the judge standing there!
Meh:
Gloves she didn't quite see it and ended up veering off of #3 to go to the side gate. On the redo she nailed it. I already know I haven't really practiced gloves with Zumi in pretty much forever.
Go out I started half way and she veered off to the stanchion to the right. On the redos she did well. But needed extra help to get the jumps on the return. An issue that was surprisingly common for her in training when I was actually training it... I thought I had fixed it but it's also been a long time since I've done any directed jumping work.
Run through Set #2
Yesterday's event was pure open ring, no judge. And it was pretty quiet. I started my time in the Open ring with more of what I did at the other location. But this time I had her toy left behind on the table.
I did 2 drop on recalls with her and on the first attempt I used just a hand signal. Zumi slowed but didn't start to drop so I happily interrupted it. As we raced playfully back to the other side Zumi got a little too wound up with barking and I had her do some sticky targets to calm her down. I was pretty proud of her for how well she was able to the duration nose touch and relax herself.
The retrieve work was about the same as last week's run through. No squealing, but moving her front feet. I chose to walk out and set the dumbbell on the ground for her 3 short attempts.
In the utility ring I did more training again. I noticed issues with Zumi heeling into a gate and quickly reset two times. Something I haven't noticed at all with her in practice but will be trying to work on again with her.
Signals Zumi had issues with taking steps after I left her. Another issue I haven't noticed at all in practice!
Articles I decided to test her with her rings instead of the flat plates. She scented and then just grabbed on the first rep, but then did 2 nice ones for me. Didn't look too frantic at least but she did fumble the return on the last one!
Go outs were interesting. No squealing, yay!!! But she was doing a wide arch to her left. If anything Zumi's issue has always been wanting to do a slight diagonal to the right, not an arc and certainly not the the left!
And then she was wanting to do a fake touch and immediately come back for the reward vs waiting out there for me to deliver the reward. At one point she even offered a handstand to the gate. What are you thinking Zumi?!! Of course I'm not really surprised with the lack of confidence on this exercise considering it's one of the 3 big areas we've been working on (articles, go outs, retrieves!) with her arousal issues.
Funniest go out at 4:35!
My goal this year is to get myself out and about more with Zumi's obedience. I just haven't been that committed to get her obedience skills really trained and certainly not in different locations. I would like to make it to the Friday night run throughs once a month with her.
I officially decided that I am going to be retraining Zumi's stand at a distance. Zumi has understood a verbal only stand cue since she was a puppy.
She actually has 2 cues. "Stand" which was supposed to mean kick the rear feet out and keep the front feet still. And "Pop" which means lift the front feet in the air and land in a stand.
Zumi added the flair of all 4 feet popping up in the air so I never really got to the stage of defining if I wanted her to walk the back feet out behind her when her front feet were lifted (like I traditionally teach the pop) or if I wanted the rear feet still so the front feet would pop forward.
In heel position, she has a pretty solid verbal discrimination. In front of me I let the criteria blur. I didn't want walking, it had to be a true stand with 2 feet completely still. But I let her kinda blur the style lines. Zumi started adopting more of her "pop" style with less flair, so only the front feet lifting. And since I hadn't defined that for her it meant she did it with rear feet still and front feet forward. An ok style.
But since there never was any real reason to have a stand at a distance for obedience, I again kinda let criteria slide so that sometimes Zumi moved just a few inches with her back feet. Not bad, but certainly something that would start to break down with the pressure of a trial.
So a few months ago I went about trying to fix that with a rear foot target to isolate her back feet, and/or reward placement with her reward behind her. But while Zumi was doing very well, I was finding it really hard to see what exactly she was doing. Did the back feet move a little bit or not?
And that led to me scrapping the whole thing and starting over. This time I'm going for front feet still, rear feet kick back. Much easier for me to see at a distance.
Usually I would go to a front foot target, but that didn't go over very well with Zumi. She's so used to rear feet criteria that her brain wasn't handling the switch. Platforms are also just a big rear foot target for her.
A piece of broken pvc from a jump standard was brought into my house a few weeks ago for my jump bar in the TEAM tests. It made a nice "L" and I adopted it for a very sad looking PVC box.
My new target.
Here was today's session on using it. She's had a handful of sessions already with the box to learn that I didn't want her front feet to move forward. Zumi does make that error x2 here and I have her back into the box to eat her cookie. I also make the dreaded "just one more" rookie mistake!
Zumi and I are still working on those pesky left pivots. I think we are making progress although I admit it's super hard to see what her butt is doing without a mirror!
Another year ending. This last year was a huge change in our household with the addition of a tiny human!
It's been 2 weeks since my discovery of Zumi better able to handle sends to her toy vs sends to a food reward. We don't work on it as much as I like, but she's gotten roughly 2-3 session a week on it.
I've been continuing to work with Zumi with trying to clear up her confusion and get rid of the vocalizing on her mark and retrieves. But even with going all the way back to marking a food bowl and sending from only 5 feet I still was getting whining on the release at least 50% of the time if I had her wait the 2-3 seconds.
Alternating the 2 exercises - marking the food bowl, and focus on me before a retrieve- did seem to help her be more clear with where to focus and when. But the vocalizing just wasn't getting any better.
It was getting frustrating. I know it will eventually get there, but I wasn't finding the right answer for her.
And then I was playing with a toy after working on the 2 exercises and suddenly it hit me that Zumi never vocalizes when being sent for her tug toy. I experimented and did the mark of a dead tug with success, even with 3 seconds duration. Then I even pushed it and threw the toy out there, marked her, and still didn't get whining when sent. Huh! I then experimented even more and followed that up with a very short db placement and send and didn't get any whining at all! Props to me I even quit when I heard the words "I'll just do 1 more" come out of my mouth :)
This was Zumi's 2nd session working on this new routine. I see that she still moves that foot pretty much as soon as I say "wait" but there was no vocalizing. Win.
I'm not sure if this good fortune will continue or if the arousal will creep back in with the new routine....
In somewhat related news, my online TEAM 2 class started yesterday!!! We are also working on mark training and retrieves in that class, Zumi would fit right in! I think there is one working spot left if you want to join us.
Yesterday Zumi had a horrible training session. A session in which I attempted to go back to basics in order to try and fix a problem that's cropped up with her go out training. But it didn't go as planned. I attempted to make it even easier and it still didn't go as planned. Finally, I scrapped it so I could step aside and really look at what might be some of the root issues. I left the session feeling frustrated. A good sign that I should have stopped even earlier than I did. And a huge blinking neon sign that I need to break things down even further.
There will always be sessions where the unexpected happens. Times where you feel like you're spinning your wheels. But they
So I sat down and really looked at the problems I've been having with Zumi's obedience training. Mainly it's in 2 areas.
1) Retrieves
2) Go outs
Both are "sends" away from me. Both have similar symptoms of vulturing and vocalizing as soon as she is released. And both have gotten worse.
I have mainly been focusing on the retrieve portion and have written about how I wanted to tackle her arousal levels though adding eye contact as a criteria to be sent, paying attention to her foot moving as a precursor to vulturing and scootching, working on calm duration before the send, and when she vocalizes going into calming mode before the next rep with cookie scatters, duration hand touch, and/or a down stay with frequent slow cookie deliveries.
But while progress seemed to be going well, it has lately gotten worse. And since the go out has similar symptoms (and causes) it has effected it even though I have not been focusing on it.
If I had to guess where I went wrong I would point to focusing too much on her foot movement. I don't think Zumi is consciously aware of moving her foot out and thus resetting her for a moved foot added too much stress and uncertainty. I should have noted the foot movement as a symptom of her arousal levels and made things easier the next rep, but not focus on it itself.
So the retrieve started to break with now actually moving her whole body on some short tosses as her frustration level rose. Her eye contact criteria actually still remained pretty strong though! I did find that stepping out of heel position seemed to help Zumi relax a bit more, less muddied waters compared to heel!
And then it makes sense that Zumi's go out mark started to get worse with the emphasis I've been putting on eye contact with her retrieve. And with the stress of the mark starting to creep in this led to more vocalizing on her sends even though she was still fairly straight and her nose touch still strong
When I attempted to just work on the mark portion yesterday I got this awfulness:
And sadly that wasn't the only rep I did.
Today I broke it back down more and went back to marking her cookie bowl. That was pretty solid. However I also saw that she's not completely confident on the duration portion. Zumi moved that front foot and sometimes did her squeal on the release even with the short 5ft send. We will stay with marking her a food bowl or a toy for awhile longer. And maybe even add in a platform.
Wish us luck.
If you are at all involved in competitive obedience then you've been hearing all the hollering going on right now about the proposed change of position exercise for open in AKC. Comments range from how impossibly hard it's going to be for the new dogs, to how much dumbing down we're doing to the sport. Regardless of how you feel, I'm at least going to be training for it!
I guess I'm lucky that all 3 of my dogs have a verbal only stand and can do it at a distance. I've even had fun doing some proofing of the stand cue while doing it with my back turned, lying on the floor, etc. (Side note: TEAM level 3 also has a fun version of leave the dog, assume a weird position yourself, and then cue a position change, x2!)
But what I don't have is any type of signal to stand. Yes my dogs can do a moving stand, or the stop in a stand position, aka signal exercise version. But in both cases it's more of a moving "freeze" in position rather than move into a stand with a signal. And regardless, heel position signals don't quite translate to now having to face the dog.
So I need a new signal!!! While the proposed regulations allow verbal and/or signals, I want to use every tool in my box to get that distance stand in a trial!
I personally like all of my signals to start slightly different from each other. This was drilled to me from others and I like the logic in knowing my dog knows exactly what I want from the second the signal starts versus needing it be completely finished. But this also makes it harder to come up with new signals and not add confusion for my dogs!
So far I've settled on my left hand for the stand signal since I have slightly more signals on my right hand (down, come, finish right, take the right jump) than my left hand (sit, finish left, take the left jump).
I'm currently experimenting with my signal starting coming in towards my body first so it looks the most different. But of course that also makes it harder to see at a distance!
This weird wave of a hand signal is what I got so far. Very open to ideas!
I'm currently giving signal +verbal at the same time to Zumi as she's very twitchy! If I do new signal, then pause and give the known verbal she will twitch in anticipation of wanting to do something, but then of course she doesn't know what I want so she waits for the verbal. I don't like the twitch :) so I'm getting her used to seeing the signal at the same time for now.
I have been continuing to work with Zumi on being in a more calm, thoughtful mode before being sent on her retrieves. We are making progress with distance of the throw and starting to do a little bit more proofing with my body language and other cues before being sent. The new critieria I've been working on are:
- No foot movement as I give the cue to wait
- Eye contact before being sent
And the new criteria for myself is remembering I changed her cue from "Get it" to "Fetch" in order to be more clear with my marker/reward cues.
This is a session from Zumi this past week. She is still moving a foot in wanting to vulture when I give the wait cue for the beginnign reps each session. I try to reset when I notice this.
When I add in other cues she sometimes whines in excitement although she is able to listen and do what I ask. Since this is a sign of over arousal, I try to go into calming mode with cookie scatters and sticky targets. You can see this at 1.31 in the video below:
Zumi still has a long way to go before she's ready to take this into a trial setting again!
More obedience this week!
Zumi is being restarted on her article training as it's been about a year since she has last done it successfully. She seemed to have a difficult time finding my scent when I was pregnant so I just put it on the sidelines. I'm restarting with food on the article and went back to lids as she was WAY too retrieve happy. I was able to originally teach her with a retrieve indication from the start as while she was excited, Zumi's retrieve drive wasn't nearly as strong as it is now. I'm sure we will get the scent work back quickly but it definitely needs retraining.
Vito I planned on using a lot more food rewards in this session as I had been focusing a lot on working with personal play and any rewards off my body. I'm wanting to work more on precision and proofing challenges with him now which would require more rewards.
I found in this session that Vito had a difficult time doing slow heeling with a right turn. He thought it was an invitation to do his "behind" reward cue (it does look similar!) so I did some proofing to tackle that issue. Then later on in our session I found an issue with Vito not sitting when cued on his go out. Going all the way to do his touch trumped the value of the sit. Personally I would much rather have that problem than the opposite! I did some cookie toss sits to remind him of sitting at a distance before putting it back together.
I've started back teaching again for the obedience club since Netta's arrival. Just one night a week but this also gives me time to train my dogs before class. They haven't really done any obedience in months besides some tiny drills in the house.
Zumi has mainly been working on 3 things
1. Go outs- Still our main issue of not taking the jump on the way out. She's great with cones and really has improved a ton with this issue over the year but it's still a real choice for her.
2. Retrieve over the high- Opposite issue of our go out :) Zumi's super strong desire to fetch makes it hard for her think on off-centered retrieves. She has no problem playing this game with targets and food all around the clock. But must fetch as fast as possible!
3. Finishes. A new problem that wasn't there before our long break. Zumi has been cutting her left finish short and also seems to occasionally be confused on what her "around" cue means.
This is the first half of our practice session this week, focusing on the 2nd two issues.
Vito has still been working on our main goal of engagement and choosing to work. Overall that has continued to go well. He even seems to be sniffing less before we start work- a problem that cropped up after our experiment a year ago (with a lesson to me on how to structure it differently next time!). So I've been adding in some more instance on precision for him, not just his free for all. Slower heeling. Active proofing to get him thinking on his finishes. And still lots of reward for fast, fold back downs; a lifetime issue for Vito.
I recently started another round of Ring Confidence at my training club and with a vacant spot in the class it was the perfect nudge I needed to have Zumi be a half student (only participates in the 1 dog at a time stuff, not the group activities I need to coach) and start actually prepping for obedience. I have been training actual exercises and pieces of the exercises about 1-2x a week (with always thinking I'll train more!) but the real ring stuff that needed training I haven't done much with other than little introductions off and on (mostly off) for the last year.
So now I have a concrete route to achieving my goal of starting obedience competitions with her in the spring. And Zumi has surprisingly blown me away with her success these last 3 weeks.
I don't know who has been training her as it certainly hasn't been me! Maybe she's just growing up.
Today we practiced heeling up to and past a person with food and then handing over her super exciting dumbbell to a helper.
Things that really need to be worked on:
Squish- her waiting position outside the ring. Zumi has a fabulous energetic release with immediate focus, but she's not always wanting to get into position (just wants to go!) and isn't waiting very long in it when I do get her in.
More people pressure. It's my main focus in this class with her and it's going well, but I'm not taking the current success for granted. Zumi LOVES people and at the same time is also secretly a sensitive and underconfident little girl who is sensitive to pressure. We need all the practice with stewards/judges approaching, talking, and just being close!
Things I think we have nailed are:
Personal play/ transitions between exercises. Zumi loves her jumping in the air and loves to play. She also has very fast setups.
Delayed reinforcement. I've stepped up our jackpot style training these last few weeks, really after being suspicious with that being a part of her focus issue at the agility trial in August, and it has been going well. Zumi has no problem starting work without seeing her reward, and has no problem continuing to work without a high rate of reward and with the actual rewards at a distance. It's a little early to tell if that's simply because her desire to jump and interact is so high, or if it's a bit of optimism that surely she will get a reward any second. If it's the latter than her performance will start to dip a bit in the coming weeks and we will just build back up with a more clear understanding of the new rules. Optimism is great, but it needs to be grounded in reality or it won't hold up in trials.
Ring Prep is my absolute favorite topic. It can be super frustrating at times especially with Project Vito which has spanned multiple years, but I love helping others learn how to train for the little things and how to be a good handler for their dogs in the ring.
We're down to Cougar's last week with us. She's 5.5 months old now and really has been an easy puppy. Laid back, cuddly, and confident with everything. Of course that self confidence does get her in trouble! But Cougar really is starting to "care" and pay heed to our warnings. Our house is never clean and Cougar doesn't pick up objects to chew on as much anymore. She's starting to come the first time she's called. And Cougar did finally tone down the constant wanting to play with Zumi.
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